tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post1131493701711023419..comments2023-09-13T10:29:50.654-04:00Comments on Caps 'Round the Clock: Why the Caps Should Not Re-Sign Scott HannanHarry Hawkingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-61557136347424236932011-05-10T15:57:38.837-04:002011-05-10T15:57:38.837-04:00Boush, everything you wrote is correct, except the...Boush, everything you wrote is correct, except the fact that erskine is not a top six NHL d-man. the lightning, bruins, canucks, sharks, and red wings all have defensemen who play who are not better than erskine (M-A bergeron and others, andrew ference, andrew alberts, niclas wallin, jon ericsson) who play substantial minutes for them as a sixth defenseman. Erskine is a fine player to have. People praise hendricks for fighting, but not erskine? that makes no sense too.<br />Nowhere in my article did I suggest that George McPhee is a genius, nor that he has never made mistakes. Of course I would like Hannan back over erskine. but that's just not possible. please read what I write before you attack what I write.Harry Hawkingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-24858085131282364912011-05-10T15:21:43.791-04:002011-05-10T15:21:43.791-04:00The problem with this article is the sunk-cost bia...The problem with this article is the sunk-cost bias. Erskine is not top-6 caliber, at least not on a (theoretical) Stanley Cup contender. It was a bad decision on McPhee's part to give him that extension, and now the Caps have to accept that and move on. Schultz, too, was overpaid, but as you said, he is not a daily liability. Defensemen who get into fights because that is their greatest asset are liabilities. You never want a situation where you have to play with 5 guys on the blue line for five minutes or more. We have Hendricks, King, and (maybe) Bradley for that role. The Caps have to accept that GMGM is fallible, and has made mistakes, especially on the blue line. It is far past time to move on.Boushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05429582521581080138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-25437606578117302002011-05-10T12:06:51.696-04:002011-05-10T12:06:51.696-04:00Hannan is going to require at least 2.5 a year on ...Hannan is going to require at least 2.5 a year on the open market.Harry Hawkingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-81303975321270898662011-05-10T12:05:59.241-04:002011-05-10T12:05:59.241-04:00Tyler - all of what you said is ideal. I just wan...Tyler - all of what you said is ideal. I just want to stress that this is NOT what I think is best or what I want to happen. It's the reality that we have these contracts and we can't just get rid of them. the money just isn't there. it sucks, but if poti is healthy, we have to play. Wideman shouldn't go anywhere. the money needs to go to the forwards. we also have OrlovHarry Hawkingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-40109209022690416902011-05-10T12:00:06.411-04:002011-05-10T12:00:06.411-04:00Yeah...this is a very sobering post. I would argue...Yeah...this is a very sobering post. I would argue Hannan has been our steadiest, most reliable D (him and Alzner anyway) and I think he is even better than Poti when healthy. <br /><br />That said, McPhee has backed us into a corner by foolishly handing our multi-year contracts to Poti, Schultz and Erskine. At least Schultz is young, and not too expensive...but the Poti contract is an anchor. 3 years at 3 mil for a 34 year old defenseman who has always been injury-prone? That was an awful decision.<br /><br />I'm personally hoping we can somehow rid ourselves of Poti or Schultz, or maybe even Green (who can't play defense when it counts). I really like having someone as reliable Hannan.Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00984652336181243486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-77880530570410926482011-05-10T11:49:09.843-04:002011-05-10T11:49:09.843-04:00What't your point? we can't just not pay t...What't your point? we can't just not pay them and keep Hannan. that's not how it works.Harry Hawkingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-67251554752655646942011-05-10T11:48:39.740-04:002011-05-10T11:48:39.740-04:00My only problem with this post is it is reliant on...My only problem with this post is it is reliant on Poti being healthy and McPhee not making the obvious choice and sending Sloan to the Bears; two assumptions that I think are misguided. <br /><br />If Poti is healthy next year, which given the information we have seems quite unlikely, I think the Caps would be better served retaining Hannan or acquiring a defenseman of a similar style, and trading Wideman. I say this not because I wasn't impressed with Wideman's play before his injury (I really was), but because he and Poti are too redundant to have on the same roster and there is no way McPhee will find a taker for Poti and his new contract. Wideman has an expensive contract, probably twice what it will cost to retain Hannan, and with Carlson, Green, and Poti we would have a puck moving defenseman on every pair. <br /><br />I think the most likely scenario is that Poti goes on LTIR, Hannan (or a player like him) gets signed, and Sloan goes to the AHL with his name on top of the call-up list (no way the guy gets claimed). That leaves Erskin as the 7th defenseman, not completely fair but considering how common injuries are he should still play 40+ games, and will be there to turn up the heat on players like Shultz.Tylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01254983410053411604noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-48637022986351782912011-05-10T11:42:19.086-04:002011-05-10T11:42:19.086-04:00The Canucks have an NHL caliber D. That's the...The Canucks have an NHL caliber D. That's the goal. Not Jessica Schultz and Tammy Poti.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14079459560595969921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-4696194092612220042011-05-10T10:19:19.067-04:002011-05-10T10:19:19.067-04:00Okay, say he gets 2 from the caps. Boyd Gordon get...Okay, say he gets 2 from the caps. Boyd Gordon gets around 1-1.5, and Brooks, who we have to keep, gets 3-3.5. that's 6-7 of 9 mil gone, with the current cap structure. If we trade semin, the problem goes away. but right now, there is just no money. none.Harry Hawkingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-11555797932249433172011-05-10T10:17:10.282-04:002011-05-10T10:17:10.282-04:00I think you are overestimating Hannan's value ...I think you are overestimating Hannan's value on the open market. If teams were not already aware that he had lost a step before he came to the Caps, after all the foot races he lost in the last six weeks, the whole league knows it now. The intangible value of a veteran asset in the lockerroom is balanced by what he is physically capable of doing on the ice. He's lost a few steps and while he's could get a multi-year deal, he's not going to get $2.5M/year from anyone. He just can't move anymore.daveboyerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09821505269531818175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-17175778636894763492011-05-10T09:53:56.960-04:002011-05-10T09:53:56.960-04:00This isn't an assessment of what we should wan...This isn't an assessment of what we should want to do. It's an assessment of reality based on contracts. Of course I would love to move schultz to keep hannan. but there is almost no chance that it happens.Harry Hawkingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04570768996485063660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-48338735345759282742011-05-10T08:59:05.901-04:002011-05-10T08:59:05.901-04:00I don't expect Poti to be back. Sloan would wo...I don't expect Poti to be back. Sloan would work as an AHL callup but he's not NHL caliber. I'd happily move Schultz if it would let us sign Hannan. Though I'd give em both up for a SAH with size that's not afraid to use it. I'd like Sarge better if he was 5'9" and played the way he does. With his size he should be able to be more of a physical presence than he's ever been.PSU Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06605412291232587743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8075775301770252880.post-47628804934955805282011-05-10T08:47:17.074-04:002011-05-10T08:47:17.074-04:00Jeff Shultz may not even be a AHL caliber defense....Jeff Shultz may not even be a AHL caliber defense. He's horrible plain and simple. If it were any other team he wouldn't have a chance at cracking the starting line-up. The Caps D is as weak as it gets in the NHL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com